The Electric Beethoven album Beathoven came out last week, treating fans to jammed out interpretations of the 3rd and 6th Symphonies of Ludwig van Beethoven. Spearheaded by bassist Reed Mathis, the foundations of these interpretations were certainly laid down on the album, but they truly come to life in the live setting.The band has spent the last several months debuting this “classical dance music” material to the live setting, with a recent show at the Beachland Ballroom in Cleveland, Ohio. Thanks to Reed Mathis and Electric Beethoven, we can listen to the opening segment, a 17-minute “Finale” from Symphony No.3, remastered from the night’s soundboard audio.We recently sat down with Mathis to discuss the project.”I honestly think that this is the beginning of the most exciting and rewarding music of my life so far,” he explained. Read the full interview here.You can catch Reed Mathis and Electric Beethoven at this year’s Brooklyn Comes Alive event on Saturday, October 22nd, alongside 50+ artists at three beloved Brooklyn venues. With members of Dead & Company, The String Cheese Incident, Tedeschi Trucks Band, Lettuce, Snarky Puppy, The Disco Biscuits and more all performing, we can’t wait for this festival! All information about Brooklyn Comes Alive can be found here.
Ben Sollee plays January Jams in Abingdon’s Barter Theater on Friday.I have been fortunate to attend many wonderful dramatic productions at the venerable Barter Theater in Abingdon. Virginia’s official state theater, the Barter opened in 1933 with a peculiar caveat – if patrons couldn’t afford the 35 cent admission price, they could barter their way in with homegrown produce. It was a win/win situation – locals got to see the plays and the actors were plied with farm fresh vittles. While I have never been lucky enough to trade a few tomatoes or cucumbers for a seat inside, I have happily taken my seat to watch the cast of the Barter Theater perform some incredible plays – To Kill A Mockingbird, Tarzan, and A Christmas Story are but three of the shows I have seen there.Despite my familiarity with the comfortable confines of the Barter Theater, I was unprepared for what I experienced last weekend. For lack of a better term, the Barter was rockin’.For the last three years, a concert series – January Jams – has taken up residency at the Barter when the theater’s cast takes the month off from performing. Promoted by the town’s Convention & Visitor’s Bureau and the Abingdon Main Street program, January Jams has brought some tremendous artists to perform in the theater. Last year, among others, Marty Stuart, Iris Dement, St. Paul & The Broken Bones, and Jason Isbell were on the bill. This year’s line up has been similarly impressive – Jill Andrews, formerly of the everybodyfields, and David Bromberg have already performed, while Mavis Staples and Greensky Bluegrass have shows upcoming.Last Saturday night, it was only fitting that the iconic Barter Theater played host to a collection of icons. The Blind Boys of Alabama, an unparalleled institution in gospel music that has been touring for much of the last seven decades, along with rising blues star Jarkeus Singleton, took the near capacity crowd on a spiritual journey of the music of the Deep South. This was my first time attending a January Jams show and I was much impressed with how this classic theater morphed into a first class music room. Without a doubt, the Barter ranks up there with some of my favorite theaters around the region, which includes the Jefferson Theater in Charlottesville, the Paramount Centre in Bristol, and the Tennessee Theater in Knoxville. The Barter is intimate, bordering on cozy, with just 500 seats, the sound was great, and the theater has already developed a reputation for supplying artists with warm and appreciative audiences.Sara Cardinale, as the town of Abingdon’s Special Events Coordinator, has been instrumental in the development and growth of January Jams. To her, the concert series is a special event that serves dual purposes.“Here at the Convention & Visitor’s Bureau, we believe that a good community event is a good tourist event. An event that makes the community happy will make a tourist happy. The goal is to have more feet on the street.”Cardinale was effusive when talking about getting live music in the Barter Theater.“The Barter Theater puts on over one hundred shows a year, but January is their time to rehearse for next year, so there aren’t any shows going on. We decided to try to keep something happening in the theater, and that is how January Jams was born. Not having to drive to Asheville to hear great live music is pretty excellent, and the caliber of musicians who have come and been delighted by our little town is awesome.”Brent Treash, an Abingdon resident and avid live music fan, echoes these sentiments.“January Jams has quickly become woven into Abingdon’s social fabric. Enthusiastic crowds are able to see legendary musicians perform in a historic theater that rarely hosts live music. Because Abingdon is now embracing live music, I get to see these amazing musicians playing virtually on my back porch.”This weekend, January Jams wraps up its month of shows with two tremendous offerings. On Saturday, the aforementioned jamgrass heavyweights Greensky Bluegrass and Virginia folk rockers The Last Bison will play.On Friday, noted folkie cellist Ben Sollee, along with David Wax Museum and Cereus Bright, will perform.Ben Sollee is a native Kentuckian, having been born in Lexington, and he began playing the cello in high school. His career, much like contemporaries like Bela Fleck and Chris Thile, has been wide and varied, and Sollee’s sound is difficult to pigeonhole. Sollee draws from a vast array of influences, and you are just as likely to hear him accompanying the Charlotte Ballet or find scoring films or riding his bike – while toting his cello on a trailer – like he did on the way to perform at Bonnaroo in 2009. Sollee has been a member of both the Woodsongs Old-Time Radio Hour house band and Abigail Washburn’s Sparrow Quartet, has performed in vaunted concert halls around the world, including Carnegie Hall and the Lincoln Center, and has an impressive collection of releases to his credit.Trail Mix and the January Jams promoters are happy to give you a shot at taking in the show of Friday for free. All it takes is a simple email. Hit me up at [email protected] with an email and put BEN SOLLEE in the subject line. A lucky winner of two passes will be chosen from the emails received by noon on Friday.
The family request memorial contributions to the Fairview United Methodist Church. www.haskellandmorrison.com Marcella will be deeply missed by her children: Linda Jones, Kathy Smith (Mark), Emerson Cole, Jr. (Mary), Stephen Cole (Carla Stillwell), and Randall Cole; 14-grandchildren: Cristina (Jones) Miller, Andrew Jones (Kara), Joshua Kinman (Celine), Sarah (Kinman) Oeffinger, Suzanne (Kinman) Cyr (Chad), Clinton Cole (Amber), Victoria Cole (Werner) Matthew, Jacob Cole (Rachel), Thomas Cole (Missy), Brandi (Cole) Rowley (Kyle), Kelly (Cole) Baudino (Nick), Clayton Cole (Selena Venezia), Benjamin Cole, and Samuel Cole; 20-great grandchildren: Christian Miller, Joseph Miller, Jadon Miller, Chandler Jones, Paul, Laura, Kendall, Landon Cole, Kaleb Cole, Bryce, Ariel Oeffinger, Keirstan Oeffinger, Terra Oeffinger, Leilah Oeffinger, Kylee Rowley, Cole Rowley, Brooks Rowley, Paige Werner, Preslie Werner, Jada Baudino, Liam Baudino, Malcolm Kinman, Stella Cyr, and A.J. Cyr; sisters, Margaret Alford Johnson of Tucson, AZ, and Wanda Garrett (Dean) of Columbia, TN and sister-in-law, Wilma Works Cole and several nieces and nephews.She was preceded in death by her husband, Emerson Clayton Cole (2014); son, Derrick Allen Cole (1974); son-in-law, Bill Jones (2010); grandson-in-law, Keith Oeffinger (2013) and Jim Miller (2017); sisters, Frances, Harriet, Helen, Mary Jean “Jeanie”, and Nancy.Friends may call 11:00 a.m. – 1:00 p.m., Monday, October 28, 2019, at the Haskell & Morrison Funeral Home, 208 Ferry Street, Vevay, Indiana 47043.Funeral Services will be conducted at 1:00 p.m., Monday, October 28, 2019, at the Haskell & Morrison Funeral Home, 208 Ferry Street, Vevay, Indiana 47043. Mrs. Marcella Jeanette (Clemons) Cole was born on September 19, 1932 in Louisville, Kentucky, to Harve and Lillian Wortham (Goble) Clemons. Marcella was the third youngest of eight children, all daughters, which include from oldest to youngest: Frances, Harriet, Helen, Mary Jean “Jeanie”, Margaret, Marcella, Nancy and Wanda. In 1929, after the Great Depression began, life became very difficult for many American families. At this time, many families were split up due to financial hardships caused by the depression. The Clemons’ family was greatly affected by the Great Depression, as well, as it did not discriminate. In 1937, six of the young Clemons girls were placed into various foster care homes and/or the Louisville, Kentucky, Orsmby Children’s Home, with most of the children leaving their home in Louisville. October of 1939, at the age of 7, Marcella went to her last foster home with Harry and Golda Osborn located outside Fairview, Indiana, in Switzerland County, Indiana. A few weeks later, Marcella started grade school at the nearby Harrison School located on Aaron Road. Marcella enjoyed living on the farm, helping Harry with the farm chores of milking the cows mornings and evenings. Marcella attended and became a member of the Fairview United Methodist Church. She was baptized here at 11 years of age. Marcella was fortunate to have two of her closest sisters, Nancy and Margaret, placed in the nearby home of the daughter and son-in-law of her foster parents. The three sisters were often able to visit with one another due to the family ties of the foster parents. In 1941, Marcella attended the yearly Fairview Fair and entered the annual music contest. Dressed in cowgirl attire, she sang and yodeled the song “I Want to be a Cowboy Sweetheart,” winning first place, blue ribbon. She would always remember this event and tell her children and grandchildren in great detail about it with great excitement and pride. In 1948, Marcella began her freshman year at the Vevay High School. She graduated in May, 1951. During her last year of high school, Marcella met her future husband, Emerson Clayton Cole, of the Fairview area. After a short courtship, Emerson proposed to Marcella while they were in a boat at nearby Lake Geneva. On June 1, 1951, Marcella and Emerson were united in marriage. The wedding took place at the Fairview United Methodist Parsonage, officiated by the Reverend Wayne Robbins. Marcella’s maid of honor, as well as best friend, was Edith Mae Hatton. Emerson’s best man was Charlie Lohide. After a wonderful, beautiful trip to Niagara Falls, New York, the couple’s first home was made in East Enterprise, Indiana. June 7, 1952, Marcella gave birth to the couples first child, a daughter named Linda Sue. In 1953, Marcella, Emerson and daughter moved into the home of his parents, Harvey and Nellie Cole, located on Fairview Road. During this time, March 2, 1954, a second child, Kathy Ann, was born. In 1955, Marcella and Emerson moved into a house located near Bennington, Indiana. While living here, February 25, 1956, a third child, Emerson Clayton Cole, Jr. was born to the couple. Later in 1956, Marcella and Emerson purchased their first home located in Center Square, Indiana. Fourth child, Stephen Michael, was born on October, 17, 1960. The family spent several years at this home until they decided to purchase a farm in the fall of 1966. They bought the farm of Thelma Scudder on Edgar Scudder Road, near Fairview, Indiana. Marcella and Emerson were so happy to have made this purchase. They both loved the farm and various farm animals. Marcella and Emerson enjoyed harvesting an abundance of vegetables and fruits together for many years. In later years, Marcella joyfully took many of the garden vegetables and fruits to sell at the local farmers market in Vevay, Indiana. She loved speaking with the many vendors and customers. October 11, 1969, a fifth child, Randall Eric, was born. May 15, 1974, a sixth child, Derrick Allen, died in childbirth during a difficult delivery. This was devastating to Marcella, Emerson and family. Marcella enjoyed trying several things during her lifetime. At one time, she babysat children in her home. Later, she ventured outside the home and enjoyed working at her sister-in-law’s restaurant, Brown’s Restaurant, located in nearby East Enterprise. In 1991, Marcella was employed to work as a door greeter at the Aurora Wal-Mart. This job suited Marcella very well, as she loved talking with people and enjoyed making new friends. Marcella was truly a people person. Marcella was employed part time as a substitute teacher at the Switzerland County High School. She was so proud and happy to be with all of the children and employees there. She couldn’t wait to get that phone call to come in and fill in for someone. In August, 1993, Marcella visited her son, Randall, in Germany while he was employed there. She was able to tour 13 countries, including Rome, Italy, which she fell in love with. In 2001, Marcella and Emerson took a 50th anniversary trip to Hawaii. They both enjoyed the trip taking in the beautiful sights, delicious foods and great history of the islands. In 1993, Marcella took a trip to New York to visit her son Randall and tour the sites of New York. In 1998, Marcella found a lump on the side of her throat. She was diagnosed with Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma, a very aggressive form of cancer. Marcella underwent radiation and chemotherapy which held her cancer in check. Marcella traveled to Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York to ensure her remission. Proudly, Marcella often said, I beat the cancer. She stayed in remission to the time of her death. Marcella was a life-long member of the Fairview United Methodist Church. She joyfully participated in the many activities held there, singing songs for the congregation was a favorite. During her lifetime, Marcella had also enjoyed visiting many places within the states, such as the Great Smokey Mountains, Pigeon Forge, Mt. Rushmore, The Grand Canyon, California, New York and several other places. She loved taking many, many pictures of places she visited and of family members. March 21, 2014, Marcella sadly lost her life’s mate of 62 years, Emerson. Marcella remained on the farm after Emerson’s death until she moved to Ripley Crossing Care Facility, June of 2016. August, 2014, Marcella entered an apple pie baking contest and won 1st place. Marcella was very happy and proud of her accomplishment. She immensely enjoyed her family gatherings, preparing the best of meals. She took great pleasure visiting her family and friends. Marcella was proud to be a Christian, wife, mother, grandmother, great-grandmother, homemaker, gardener, and employee during her life time. Marcella was an excellent cook, especially apple pies. Her family loved coming home to visit and enjoying her fabulous home cooked meals. Marcella Jeanette (Clemons) Cole quietly passed away at Highpoint Health in Lawrenceburg, Indiana, Thursday morning, October 24, 2019, at 2:09 a.m.
For all the Latest Sports News News, Cricket News News, Download News Nation Android and iOS Mobile Apps. New Delhi: Ramesh Powar has gotten no extension into his tenure as the coach of the women’s cricket team after the Board of Control for Cricket in India invited applications for the application of the post. Powar, whose tenure ended on November 30, was involved in an ugly face-off with Mithali Raj after India’s star player was benched for the semi-final of the ICC Women’s World T20 against England which India lost by eight wickets. Several officials in the Indian cricket board were not happy with the way how Powar dealt with the dropping of Mithali and that he acted on a ‘phone call’ from an influential board member to drop India’s leading run-getter.Read More |Ramesh Powar may face consequences for Mithali Raj face-offOn the official website of the BCCI, it said, “The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) would like to call upon interested candidates to apply for the position of ‘Head Coach – Team India (Senior Women)’.Read More |It is the darkest day of my life, says Mithali Raj on Powar’s chargesThe situation involving Powar and Mithali flared up when Powar admitted that his professional relationship with Mithali was strained as he always found her aloof and difficult to handle. Earlier on Tuesday, Mithali slammed Committee of Administrators’ member Diana Edulji and Powar. Mithali said while Powar humiliated her during the ICC Women’s World T20, Edulji used her position against her.Aftrwards, the 35-year old cricketer tweeted, ‘’I’m deeply saddened & hurt by the aspersions cast on me. My commitment to the game & 20yrs of playing for my country, the hard work, sweat, in vain. Today, my patriotism doubted, my skill set questioned & all the mudslinging- it’s the darkest day of my life. May god give strength’’.Read More |Mithali Raj shatters record, scores more runs than any male cricketerAccording to several reports, Powar had no answer to defend his decision when he was asked why Mithali’s strike rate didn’t come in the way of her selection for the games against Ireland and Pakistan.Mithali’s exclusion took an ugly turn following the team’s loss in the semi-final, with the player’s manager calling Indian women’s cricket team skipper Harmanpreet a “manipulative, lying, immature, undeserving captain” in a series of tweets. Mithali’s manager, Annisha Gupta, spoke to ESPNCricinfo and confirmed that the tweets belonged to her handle and defended her statements. However, Gupta deleted the tweets later after the confirmation.The scenario regarding the women’s cricket team coaching has been dodgy. Tushar Arothe quit following differences with the senior players over training methods in August while the situation involving Powar has decimated the morale of the team and created differences between Mithali and skipper Harmanpreet Kaur.
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Mothers might feel that they must be moms 150% of the time. Lawyer, law professor, and author Lara Bazelon started to question this assumption. Honestly examining the myth of “perfect” work/life balance helped Lara breakthrough to redefine motherhood for herself. “I’ve never felt normal and I’m so curious to know if women listening to this also feel the same way,” she says in our interview. “Because in my mind I always had this idea of what a mom was. They were on the soccer field watching every kick. They were on the playground watching every game. I’m the kind of mom where I’m there, and then in my mind, I’m writing my closing argument.”When Lara’s passion for her legal work conflicted with the time she spent with her kids, she learned to stop apologizing for her ambition and explain her work to them. She works for social justice, overturning wrongful convictions in court. Bringing her kids into her passion expanded their view of “what mommy does at work” and inspired them.You can’t have it all every day, she recognizes, but you can play the long game.“I think a lot of women experience this where they’ve striven, they’ve achieved and then they find a life partner, and they have children, and there’s this idea that somehow some switch is going to go off in their brain and they’re going to cease to want to achieve in the professional sphere and cease to be ambitious.”Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. IN PURSUIT features candid, personal reflections from guests who are looking for answers and evolving to meet the challenges life throws at them. You’ll get inspiring conversations about life and career.Amy Elisa Jackson: Welcome to In Pursuit, the podcast from Glassdoor. I’m your host, Amy Elisa Jackson. In every episode, we share the real stories of extraordinary people navigating life’s most pivotal moments at the intersection of the personal and professional. In this episode, attorney Lara Bazelon shares her experience with difficult career choices. She wrote an Op-Ed for the New York Times titled, “I’ve Picked My Job Over My Kids.”Amy Elisa Jackson: In the article, she tells the story of being a trial lawyer on a case to free an innocent African-American man named Kash Register. He was serving a life sentence for a murder he did not commit. Lara moved from San Francisco to Los Angeles to be closer to the courthouse, taking her away from her children. She’s here to talk about unapologetically choosing her work over her children at times. Lara, welcome to In Pursuit.Lara Bazelon: Thank you for having me.Amy Elisa Jackson: Absolutely. You wrote an Op-Ed for the New York Times called I’ve Picked My Job Over My Kids. This headline jumped out at me. Right now you’re wincing as though you are nervous about such a provocative headline. What really was it that provoked you to write this piece about sort of how you navigate work-life balance and whether it’s even achievable?Lara Bazelon: I think what motivated me was, I don’t think that it is achievable and I feel like so many women get that question, how do you balance your work and be the best mother you can be? Whereas men are never asked, Gee, how do you balance your high-powered career and be the best dad that you can be? It puts this pressure on women to chase after what I think of as a mirage in this kind of exhausting sapping quest for this perfect aqua poise that doesn’t really exist. And so, I just felt like I was calling out what so many women know in their hearts to be true.Amy Elisa Jackson: I love the line that you wrote in the article that says, the term work-life balance traps women in an endless cycle of shame and self-recrimination. Those are pretty strong words. What was it or was there a moment when you first felt that shame or that self-recrimination around work-life balance? Talk to me about that pivotal moment or if anything sort of jumps out where you said, “Oh my gosh, this is a farce. This is BS.”Lara Bazelon: I think I first experienced it really profoundly when I was in a two-year fellowship and I was learning how to be a law professor. I had a small child and then I had another baby and I was going back to work. I went back to work after 12 weeks because that was all the time that was given to me and I felt that when people heard that I was coming back relatively soon, that I was putting my daughter in daycare, I got a lot of looks of, I thought surprise and kind of judgment like, “Well, you’re married to someone who works at a law firm. Can’t you take more time?”Lara Bazelon: The truth was, I couldn’t, my job wouldn’t let me, I would have been fired. But also I wanted to go back to work and I wanted to continue to do my job and finish my fellowship. That’s the first time I kind of felt that pressure and a little bit of judgment.Amy Elisa Jackson: It’s interesting because something that just jumped out was the fact that you wanted to go back to work. I feel like that seems to be a taboo thing, whether you’re going back to work after three weeks of having a child or five months, but just that somehow motherhood flips this switch and that you no longer want to work.Lara Bazelon: That is exactly right. I think a lot of women experience this where they’ve striven, they’ve achieved and then they find a life partner and they have children and there’s this idea that somehow some switch is going to go off in their brain and they’re going to cease to want to achieve in the professional sphere and cease to be ambitious. And that actually that’s something that we as a society want to encourage and we do encourage it in the sense that we discourage women, right? We don’t have paid family medical leave and women are the primary caregivers for children. Often they’re in relationships where they’re the less-earning partner. And so, if somebody is going to have to step back, it’s usually women.Amy Elisa Jackson: I absolutely agree, Lara. In the intro to the show, I mentioned that you wrote an Op-Ed for the New York Times titled, I’ve Picked My Job Over My Kids. In the article, you tell the story of being a trial lawyer on a case to free an innocent African-American man named Kash Register who was serving a life sentence for a murder he did not commit. You moved from San Francisco to Los Angeles to be closer to the courthouse for the case, taking you away from your children. How did you navigate that decision, Lara?Lara Bazelon: One of the conversations that I had with my son, we were talking about how much I was away and I said, “Look, Cash’s mommy has been waiting for him to come home for 34 years and his mom needs him to come home and that’s part of why I’m doing this.” It was a huge part because his mom, Wilma, was a force of nature and a force of life and his primary connection to the outside world. Once I met her, it became just so much more imperative to be able to bring her son back. That was part of my kids’ understanding what I was doing. Then I was kind of reconnecting and reuniting a family. That’s what I was trying to do.Amy Elisa Jackson: That’s so powerful that you were able to explain that to your son and he was really able to understand that Kash, your client, wanted to be with his mommy and his mommy wanted Kash to be home, and so does your son. Just making it the human experience, right? And really conveying that. I have a mother who sacrificed quite a bit to be a physician and to work really hard and I always had to understand that she’s out saving lives. Mommy is not at my soccer game or she’s not at my volleyball game because she’s saving lives. I think making sure that you teach your children that is so pivotal. I think sometimes parents try to shield their kids from what it is that they actually do. But you’re bringing that home for them and making it very tangible for them, which is very commendable.Lara Bazelon: That is a really good point. I think that sometimes parents think, my kids will be overwhelmed by what I do or bored by what I do or it will somehow fracture their inner sense if I tell them what I do.Amy Elisa Jackson: I agree. But we totally let our fathers off the hook. It was like, “Oh my dad’s out saving the world and he’s doing something cool and bringing home his briefcase.” With mom, it’s like, “Ah, why aren’t you available to get me ready for the dance or for… Why weren’t you there? Why couldn’t we talk?” It’s just a very interesting takeaway and it’s what’s still unfortunate, I think, about being a working mother; to have to address some of those questions and feel that guilt a little bit. But there are times when the pendulum swings the other way, when you pick your kids over your job.Amy Elisa Jackson: And so, you wrote in an Op-Ed that you turned down an additional teaching assignment because you didn’t want to lose time with your kids. What changes and how do you gauge and make those calls as to whether or not this is a time where mommy needs to be gone or this is a time when mommy really needs to be there? Do you feel like your kids or those around you gave you credit for that decision, because you kind of get dinged when you do and you get dinged when you don’t, but did you get credit?Lara Bazelon: I’m not sure that my kids are in the credit giving business, as kids tend not to be. But I do think if I had made a different decision, they would have been upset. And you know what? Rightfully so.Amy Elisa Jackson: Mm-hmm (affirmative). One of the things that you sort of talk about also and I want to dig into is this idea that you’re not a normal mom, and there’s a difference between normal mom and bad mom. When did you realize you weren’t a normal professional mom?Lara Bazelon: I’ve never felt normal and I’m so curious to know if women listening to this also feel the same way, because in my mind I always had this idea of what a mom was, and that person was just 150% present. They were on the soccer field watching every kick, they were on the playground watching every game. I’m the kind of mom where I’m there and then in my mind I’m writing my closing argument or I’m thinking about this phone call or I’m remembering this list of things that has to do with work.Lara Bazelon: I don’t go home and forget about my job. I go home and I’m still kind of conjuring and thinking over something that happened that day. Then I tend to want to talk about things that are interesting with my kids that have to do with my job. As you and I were talking about before, not a lot of parents I don’t think make that choice.Amy Elisa Jackson: But it’s interesting because that’s the intersection of the personal and the professional, right? You don’t take off one hat when you’re at one location and then vice-versa. It’s not as though when you go to your law firm or you’re standing in front of your students, that you’re somehow not a mom and vice-versa. When else in your life do you feel like that intersection between personal and professional has felt potentially as palpable as it does when you’re thinking about being a professional mom and a working mom?Lara Bazelon: Well, I’ll tell you the reverse of it which is, this past semester I taught criminal procedure, which is a class for about 70 students. It’s their first year and you’re teaching them kind of basics about their Fourth Amendment and Fifth Amendment, Sixth Amendment rights. Really important stuff. It’s a podium class and you lecture for an hour and a half to two hours. Normally I turn off my phone, I put everything away, I focus on my students. I said at the beginning of class, “Look, my son had an accident. He’s at the doctor. We’re waiting to hear about some test results about whether or not he has a broken bone. I’m leaving my phone on and if the doctor calls, I’m going to take the call and step out of the room.”Lara Bazelon: She didn’t happen to call then, but if she had, I would have left. I feel like I do that too, that my students have seen me in the moment struggling with this childcare falling through, some kind of deadline getting pushed forward, and me having to kind of grapple with my childcare situation being a single mom. And so, it’s not like I bring it all out and over-share, but I’m very upfront about, “Okay. This is what it looks like when you are a working mom. This is your life. Sometimes you can’t perfectly separate everything.”Amy Elisa Jackson: It’s interesting because that’s what I like to call being unapologetically authentic. Bringing your full self to work and bring your full self to whatever it is that you’re doing. And so, you’re not sort of creating the appearance that you’re not a mom or the appearance that you don’t have an outside life. I think for those who are listening, it’s so important to bring your full self to work and to be okay with admitting to your boss or your colleagues that, “Hey, I have a sick parent, or I have a child who needs my attention, or I have a chronic illness and I need to handle that.”Amy Elisa Jackson: I would imagine earlier in your career, before you were tenured, perhaps it would have been pretty daunting to sort of admit to a classroom of people that, “Hey, I’ve got to take time off, or I’ve got to step away if I get a phone call.” Was there a process of becoming that authentic in front of your students?Lara Bazelon: It really was a process and I agree with you. I think we have this idea, particularly as women, that we have to present this front of being perfectly professional, which I think we also equate with being perfect. And that if you show any sort of vulnerability or people somehow question your commitment to what you’re doing, because you have to leave early to get your kid, that there’s going to be a cost that you’re going to have to pay for that.Lara Bazelon: It took me a while to come to the point of not wanting to apologize and not feeling like I should have to apologize, but just being really frank and upfront with my colleagues, with my bosses, with my students, “This is my life. There’s a lot going on. I’m doing the best I can to juggle everything. Sometimes there’s going to be an imbalance and you’re going to see it.” That’s okay because it’s more important really for you to see what’s real than for you to go out into the world and have this idea that there’s this mirage-like existence that’s possible for you when that’s really not.Amy Elisa Jackson: We’ll be back in a moment after this from Glassdoor.Commercial: Do you want the job done, or the job done right? If you’re hiring for your business, you want it done right. You want Glassdoor. Simply post your job on Glassdoor and just like that, it’s available to over 67 million job seekers. Glassdoor only matches you with the best applicants so you can find the right fit faster in half the resumes. Plus, there are 30% more likely to stay with your company longer. Hire better, higher faster. Start your free trial today at Glassdoor.com/hire.Amy Elisa Jackson: Now back to my conversation with Lara Bazelon. Do you remember a key time or a moment that stands out in your career where you had to get real, real with your boss or your colleagues and really sit them down to say, “Hey, this is what’s going on.”Lara Bazelon: The example that I’m going to give is funny. It’s in the reverse. It was a male colleague, a single dad, and he and I were trying a case. I was 27 and he was maybe 41 or 42 and our jury was out. I closed. They went out at 3:30 and he was supposed to pick up his two young sons. He said to the judge, “I need to leave at 4:30 to go get my kids.” The judge was not having it. The judge said, “If the jury comes back, they come back, you’re coming back.” They came back after an hour, which was shocking. I mean, the jury is usually out for longer than that, especially after trial that long.Lara Bazelon: I remember he and I got into a huge argument walking back to court where I was just berating him for even wringing his hands over the fact that he was having this childcare issue. Ultimately he was scrambling to find somebody to pick up his kids. I remember in that moment feeling so unsympathetic. And now in retrospect, I think about all of it. Just how unsympathetic the judge was. What kind of situation he was in; divorced, no partner, or had to rely on his mom’s scrambling. He really pushed back hard against me and I appreciate that, and I have appreciated it ever since because so many people are in that situation.Amy Elisa Jackson: It’s amazing that he was actually able to model that behavior that then you adopted later on. Because I think we all have moments in our careers where we wish we had done things differently or we hold people’s feet to the fire only later on to realize, “Wow, that guy really had to make a tough decision. I empathize with them and I understand that now that I’m in this position, et cetera.” That’s an impressive learning.Lara Bazelon: I feel like it’s incumbent on us once we’re in some kind of position of power, however relatively minor, to try to just relieve unnecessary stress for other women. Just for example, we’re interviewing right now at USF for a position and we’ve been interviewing a number of excellent candidates. One of them wrote a general thank you note and then just said, “I’m concerned that one of the questions that I asked was misinterpreted and so I just wanted to explain.”Lara Bazelon: I’ve been in that position, really wanting a job and thinking, “Oh God, when they asked for the question part, my question probably wasn’t phrased the right way or maybe I blew it.” Then you spend the whole weekend just turning it over in your mind and obsessing about it. I could’ve just written back. She didn’t even write it directly to me. I could have not written back or I could have written back, thanks. It was so great. I wrote back, “Nothing that you asked was problematic. You didn’t ask a problematic question. We think you’re an excellent candidate. Have a good weekend. Don’t worry about it.” She wrote back, “I’m so relieved.” I wrote back, “Been there.”Amy Elisa Jackson: That’s the sisterhood of the professional network. I mean, I think there is such power in other professionals being encouraging and empathetic and sharing because we’re all in it together.Amy Elisa Jackson: We’re all navigating these personal challenges while trying to succeed and climb the ladder in our careers, while trying to navigate all of the other things that life brings. It can be a real challenge to open up about your personal life.Amy Elisa Jackson: You have authored several opinion pieces about motherhood, about your work. I’m so in all of your work — especially as it pertains to African-American women in the legal clinic for rape — that really spoke to me. But there’s so much that you write about where you put yourself out there and that can be pretty daunting. Talk to me a little bit about the feedback that you’ve gotten on your articles. What’s been the feedback, because transparency is no joke.Lara Bazelon: Transparency is no joke. What I say to my students about litigation is, if you step into the arena, you should expect to get hit. I don’t think you should write a personal essay if you think that 100% of people are going to respond and tell you how brave and eloquently you are, because that’s not going to happen. People have really strong opinions about a lot of the issues that I read about: divorce, work, co-parenting.Lara Bazelon: And so, the reactions really run the gamut and you just have to be prepared for that. This sounds weird to say, but sort of not take it personally. The people who are writing, they don’t know you. They are speaking from their own life experiences and those vary. That said, with this piece, I was actually pleasantly surprised because so much of the direct response that I got was overwhelmingly positive.Amy Elisa Jackson: Now, is there sort of a standout anecdote or piece of feedback that you’ve gotten that really warmed your heart and then one that made you roll your eyes?Lara Bazelon: I got a lot of letters from moms and from dads about this last one, and they were really moving. The ones from some of the dads said, “I know this double standard. I see it. I see my partner subjected to it and I don’t really feel like there’s anything that I can do about it. This is kind of the way our society is.” I had some women write to me and say something like, “You go girl. I’m a generation ahead of you and I did sort of what you were talking about with our moms.”Lara Bazelon: I had women write to me and say, “I made a different choice. I am home, but I support what you’re doing.” It wasn’t sort of one particular anecdote. It was more just this really diverse group of people responding and saying, “This was my experience and maybe I don’t agree with everything that you did, but it resonated with me for this reason.”Amy Elisa Jackson: Was there anything that someone said that made you say, “Hmm, have I approached that differently, how would I think about navigating my career, my professional life, et cetera?”Lara Bazelon: One comment that I got from a bunch of people was, I hope that you don’t expect your kids to visit you when you’re in a nursing home. Essentially saying, you’ve de-prioritized them. They are going to de-prioritize you. They’re essentially like the Cat Stevens song about the boy and his dad, going to grow up and you’re going to sort of get the back of their hand and don’t be surprised when that happens to you.Lara Bazelon: It did really make me stop and think. I mean, I will say in my own family situation, one of my parents got quite sick. I dropped everything and went 3000 miles back home and felt like I was as present as I could be, given the distance between us. But that did make me stop and think. Just like in the piece I talk about these times where I feel like, am I damaging my kids? And I guess the converse of that is, is the damage going to come back to haunt you because they’re disengaged from you? I don’t in my heart believe that that’s true, but I guess there’s a tiny part of me that’s fearful that it might be.Amy Elisa Jackson: That feedback can sting. That is like an ouch, whoo! That hit me in the chest, in the white meat.Lara Bazelon: I know, I know, I know.Amy Elisa Jackson: Goodness. If you had one piece of advice for other professionals —where a lot of people will be affected by their role and their professional decisions — what advice would you give them about navigating this world of the personal and the professional? Any advice that you’ve learned or that has really helped you along your journey?Lara Bazelon: The advice I always tell myself is, play the long game. I think with issues like childcare, work-life balance, relationships, it’s so easy in that moment to think, I’ve really messed up and everything’s falling apart. I mean, this horrible decision at work or at home and I’ll never get past it. The truth is, almost everything is repairable. In the long term, if you have very specific goals and you are committed to your job and you love your children, most likely it’s going to be okay and you just sort of have to keep your eyes on the horizon even though there’s a little fire in front of you that you’re putting out. “I’m the kind of mom where I’m on the soccer field and then in my mind I’m writing my closing argument. It took me a while to come to the point of not wanting to apologize and not feeling like I should have to.” —Lara BazelonAmy Elisa Jackson: When you look back at your career thus far, because it’s not over, what has surprised you the most about it?Lara Bazelon: What surprised me the most and made me the happiest is that I’ve been able to combine different things that I love. I love having clients and I love going to court. I have to tell you that I wake up a little disappointed every day if I have no one to cross-examine. I also love writing and teaching. And so, the fact that I have a job where I get to do all three things; that I get to teach and I get to teach my law students how to be lawyers by essentially having a small law firm, inside the law school we have our own clients. And [I love] that my job gives me the freedom to write scholarly pieces, but also to write Op-Eds or to write a book. It just feels very dreamy to me. I never thought I would be able to find a job that satisfied all of those parts of me.Amy Elisa Jackson: When have you felt the most in control or in the driver’s seat of your career?Lara Bazelon: I mean, the truth is, it’s now. I think once I got tenure I realized I am probably going to be okay. I love this job and now it’s more or less permanent. What that also means is, I have room to grow in the job and there are new responsibilities I can take on. I can grow and shift and I don’t have to be afraid to ask for things like more money or different teaching assignment. For the first time, I think it’s just this magical thing that tenure brings to you, which is a real sense of economic stability and freedom. I guess I would have to say that that moment is really now.Amy Elisa Jackson: Lastly, what’s the best thing your kids have said to you this month?Lara Bazelon: Oh, that’s a good question. My daughter wrote this poem, it’s called getting up. I don’t know if she wrote it for me specifically, but there are lines of it that I always say to myself and I think that there are such important lessons in it. She’s only eight and she’s a really great writer. So is my son. Part of it says, “If something deep and heavy is weighing you down and you fall down, get back up. If someone says something not nice to you and you think, I will never talk to this person again. Think, no, I will get up and I will talk to them. Even if they push me down, I will get up again and I will try again.” I just think that that encapsulates so much of what it means to be a woman, a person in this world, which is to be resilient in the face of adversity and never give up.Amy Elisa Jackson: Thank you so much Lara Bazelon.Lara Bazelon: It was fun to be here. Thank you for having me.Amy Elisa Jackson: Thank you for listening to In Pursuit, the podcast from Glassdoor. This episode was produced by Lee Schneider and Alison Sullivan. Music by Epidemic Sound, production by Red Cup Agency. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes or Google Play. Leave us a comment or reach out on social to let us know what you think. I’m Amy Elisa Jackson, and this is In Pursuit.